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3 turds plus cranky honker don’t say roster management edition
Blue In BC replied to wbbfan's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Why not move Clercius into a SB position. His output is not huge and he should be add some weight in blocking assignments. Then add Mitchell at WR since the comments are that he can only play WR. If that means taking out one of Sterns or Case, then so be it. OTOH I'm not sure if Vaval misses a game or two due to possible concussion issue. If that happens Case could remain on the roster until either Logan or Vaval is healthy. The reality is that we aren't getting huge output from Sterns, Case or even Clercius. Adding Mitchell might give us more ability to stretch the field and have more YAC. -
The Bombers are obviously using that extra money to sustain their 1 game IR, 4 or 5 healthy players are being paid not to play. I have no problem with this as a tool to expand the roster and hang onto players they would be in danger of losing if they sent to the PR. Regret they didn't offer Reggie White the same deal.
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do or die replied to wbbfan's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Still negotiating the Slurpees, though.... Or at least get the dude, coached up.... The amount of fundamental mistakes, made......truly alarming. - Today
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With the lack of other available QBs on the market, whether its mbt, faj, schlitz, or who ever else, I think the price will be similar. I’d expect a first, plus a conditional pick that turns into a first or second with enough starts.
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Schiltz is third string in Ottawa so you might get him cheap but I don't think he's better than what we have.
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The batch of potentially available via FA QBs for next year is ugly at best.
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3 turds plus cranky honker don’t say roster management edition
bigg jay replied to wbbfan's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I expect to see an extension announced before a release! 😂 -
3 turds plus cranky honker don’t say roster management edition
Goalie replied to wbbfan's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Is Bridges cut yet? -
Nope, he's with Ottawa.
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Is Schiltz available cuz I’m trying to think of guys with some cfl experience and I’m drawing blanks here. Wonder if Hamilton would trade us Powell as they also have Tuas brother they like. He’s probably the only option really. Ottawa needs a reset. They should trade us Dru Brown for Collaros Peterson and Jake Thomas.
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I don't think Terry Wilson is the guy to develop. Even NCAA he's got like a 6 yard average for pass depth. He hasn't shown any different up here. He's point guard style spread QB. No ability to hit windows and go vertical. Maybe you develop quick game for him but he doesn't get it out quick yet, hasn't developed that yet at this level anyways. So far what we've seen is "hold it, hold it, check it down." I'm not really sure why he's still here other than he's still on the rookie deal vs a guy like Patterson or Dolegala. The development guy here as a passer is Artopoeus. But he's a first year pro.
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Dolegala was just moved to the Hamilton active roster from their PR so he's not even an option (barring a trade).
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The reason I made it as a "rumour" is that there was a followup posted on 3DownNation with some quotes from front office staff https://3downnation.com/2025/03/27/cfl-salary-cap-increase-not-set-in-stone-cflpa-still-working-through-revenue-share-allocation/ And I don't think invoking Stegall is the counter argument you think it is? Having the greatest WR in league history on the roster and making it to the Grey Cup twice sucks. Him having a pupuplatter of QBs to throw to him is obviously roster mismanagement. What is the point of having Kenny Lawler on the team when you have 2 QBs where the starter was 5/16 on passes >20 Depth yards going into Week 7, and the backup has an average depth of target of 8.5 yards, Lawler is leading the league in 20+ depth targets at 16. On the Bombers this year you'd have him blowing the top off the coverage and no one to actually have the ball make it to him. His average DOT last year (16.6) actually isn't that far off from this year (17.8)... but he already almost has as many 20+ targets (16 vs 21) and more receptions (9 vs 10). If you want a team with exciting players, Lawler on the Bombers is a great fit. If you want a team that is going to be competitive you can better use that money somewhere else. But the only reason we are wasting so much time discussing this, is that Lawler is having Bo toss him the ball, which is a match made in heaven for him, and the Bombers essentially used the money they would have given Lawler on J Jones and D Mitchell... both of which the Bombers refuse to put onto the active roster.
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As angry as I was/am about our team getting embarrassed two games in a row by a good (but not great) team, once in front of a stacked house, if the bombers lose to the Argos, I will be livid. I really see that happening. This is the worst team we have had in three years with no relief in sight and will be facing the QB who beat us in the Cup game.
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Going to get crapped on for this but we are better off with Dolegala or Patterson than with Strev. He moves like he is running with a full diaper right now.
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Sure I’ll explain. If ZC is out longer term, elevate TW to 2nd string. Develop him in practice and give him more reps in coming games if the score isn’t close. Get him ready to be a potential starter and see what he’s got. But this ain’t gonna happen I know.
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A lot our guys are...or will vamoose as soon as rookie deal expires.... Then not resign them or let them walk...and start it all over again with our old eroded...and not good enough talent...aka...status quo Rode a stacked in prime roster...and yes some luck...minimal real coaching...lack of player development...zero forward thinking and planning/transitioning unless forced by injury...defection...and a lot of real dumb decisions....with a stubborn HC with bias'...lack of knowing whats going on apparently and a hancuffing Canadian bias to players...and rules...and allowed too much control by g.m and Prez...what did u all expect...I been incessantly raising alarm bells for 2...3 yrs...and was ridiculed for it...I seen this before...played thru it...and yes I do get a lot of privileged inside info....don't always believe media soundbites...and especially whatever comes outta Osh smughole This And that...with a healthy sprinkling of stupidity and not knowing your room Crux of matter...they gave osh too much say in who..what he wanted and essentially eroded what Walters originally gave him...and didnt transition properly...and has a bad eye for talent....and now he has no clue how to fix it...and being stubborn...and not maximizing use of rules and roster he does have compounds it
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Can't see it being anything else
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Agreed. Play guys like Ayers, Mitchell, Person, J. Jones, Woods, Griffin (a hell of a lot more), but even if these guys are inserted in the lineup, there's still others I am not sold on at all. We need to bring consistent pressure and contain on the opposition QB'S to make the job of the Secondary easier. Guys like Bonds and Nichols didn't suddenly become poor players. Our O-Line has to be able to make Collaros job way easier but there's a couple of changes I would make there as well when Stanleys back. He still has the ability to make all his reads and check downs, however when the balls leaving his hands, the accuracy isn't as spot on as it has been in the past. He doesn't scramble enough; thus he tries to throw into coverage and loses those battles more than he wins. He also doesn't have an All-Star receiving core.
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Rumour? What is it with you & Colin Unger saying the salary cap increase didn't happen or it's just a rumour? It's not a rumour & it did happen. The salary cap increase was announced by both the CFL & CFLPA last winter just after free agency started. The Bombers in their infinite wisdom decided to conduct business like the cap never increased which was the team's choice & the Bombers are now showing the effects of that decision on the playing field & in the standings. Just a question. How are we the kind of team that can't utilize a "luxury" like Kenny Lawler but every other CFL team can? That's like saying the San Francisco 49ers coudn't utilize the "luxury" of Jerry Rice. Or the Calgary Stampeders couldn't utilize the "luxury" of Allen Pitts. Do you think Milt Stegall was a "luxury" when he didn't always have great qbs throwing him the ball when he played? During his time in Winnipeg, Stegall played with some real stinky starting qbs like Sammy Garza, Shawn Moore, TJ Rubley, Kevin McDougall, Chris Vargas, Mike Quinn, Pat Barnes, Troy Kopp, Kevin Mason, Michael Bishop, Timmy Chang, Kerwin Bell, Reggie Slack, Stefan LeFors & Ryan Dinwiddie. He had to play with guys that had no business putting on a Bomber jersey let alone starting. However, as Stegall is the all time greatest receiver in CFL history, he obviously made the most of it. Lawler a luxury?? C'mon, man. Here's the announcement by the CFL on it's website last February of the salary cap increase. I actually don't believe that I have to post this to prove it's true. Wake up, people!! Pay attention! https://www.cfl.ca/2025/02/05/2025-salary-cap-increase-driven-by-2024-league-revenue-growth/
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110/300 is still around a third of the way to Lawler. Someone rightfully mentioned J Jones and Mitchell sitting on the 1 game, that right there is almost a Lawler... but as I kind of mused about above I don't really thing a Lawler type is a luxury this team can really utilize. The rumoured increase in the cap... who knows where that went. A lot of the talent... even if they wanted to stay some of those contracts are woof. 260K for Drew Desjarlais, 215K for Hardrick, 205K for Dobson, 230K for Ford, Some of the ones that got away that I feel hurt because those contracts ended up being pretty reasonable (or they just decided not to play)... Stove Richardson, Casey Sayles, Jeffcoat, J Grant... I'm actually drawing a blank on players the Bombers didn't bring back that had some success with their new teams... Desjarlais got an East All Star Nod, Same with Sayles... Adams had one season he almost hit 1K receiving yards. Brown is looking somewhat promising but no matter how much you invoke Wally Buono I don't think anyone is going to move on from a QB that was back to back MOP and probably finished 3rd in 2023... unless he literally managed to lose a leg at some point between the 2023 grey cup and the opening of free agency... and even then with how the Bombers have treated their guys in free agency with injuries probably not even then. I dunno... I am kind of working myself in circles looking at rosters from 2019 on. It seemed like the Bombers were just REALLY good at having those elite guys who made a bunch of money, and then filling the roster around them... but as the years have gone by, those Elite guys are pretty much the same (Jefferson, Bryant, Collaros,, Demski, I'm gonna combine Harris and Oliveira into 'Elite Canadian RB'... Bighill and Alexander... but at least they cut losses there)... and now those players are no longer near elite but the players they have been bringing in as support have just been for the most part huge whiffs. 2021 they bring in Dee Alford, Nichols, Rose, Houston and Darby for Corners. 2022 is Ford, Holm and Parker. This year you have Bonds and Bridges out there and it seems like there is a broken coverage every quarter. Nichols always seems to be chasing someone... is he covering for mistakes or has he mysteriously fallen off because he was lights out last year. Are the Bombers unable to bring in talent these days because incoming players know that the mafia has their guys and they will never get their shot? Are they just on a really poor run of identifying talent? Do they have too much confidence in the medical staff / how players are telling them they feel? Some combination or the above? Like mentioned above, you can exchange Thomas and Kolo (who are definitely O'Shea's type of player) for replacement types and Schoen coming off a knee injury for Kenny Lawler. The Bombers definitely have a history of very... questionable roster decisions around injuries. Streveler back this year off his ACL. Schoen ACL. Bighill, Schoen, Bailey and Collaros playing in the 2023 Grey Cup all clearly injured. Collaros coming back into the game in 2024. A 38 year old Bryant collapses in a game last year. Neufeld admittedly playing injured all last year. Oliveira getting injured in camp and playing the first few games. J Grant busting up his ankle on a rush he ends up diving up the middle and the Bombers move on. So many weird decisions. I apologize for the rambly nature of the above
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Complacency....
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Arrogance & stubborness.
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