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Jake and Kolo have both never appeared on the highest paid players list, they are probably making somewhere between $100-$120K. Even if they aren't around you still have to replace them with at least a minimum salary guy (which may or may not actually be an improvement... probably for Thomas, maybe not for a center).. so at 70K you are saving about 50K a head and you are still only a third of the way to Lawler. If you are talking about dudes with experience to replace Kolo, McEwen got 150K or so from the Riders, but he is 32 and not really a long-term play. Beard, also at 32, got 197K from Edmonton... and surprise! Both of those guys are injured. It seemed for the longest time Eli was going to be the plan at centre... who knows what is happening there. Both the lines have way too many way too old guys on it.

If Bob Dyce, arguably the nicest but worst HC in the league, can muster up the courage to bench/demote starters in order to turn things around this week, there's no reason why Osh can't other than he refused to. We'll see what happens.

Case is basically Sterns with slippery cleats. Just another midget with good but not great speed. Dime a dozen.

To me Strev is good if he gets all the 1 reps and a gameplan, like Week 1. He’s been pretty terrible whenever he’s had to come in off the bench both this year and last. It’s pretty clear his knee is still really buggered too.

My takeaway is that Bridges should be given an apple and a road map. Our OL and DL were useless, and Strev is not a very good QB Also our coordinators are not coordinating anything

IF this is what we have to look at the rest of the year....we're in for a lot of hurt....What the hell is this Bridges kid doing on the club....We could have done a helluva lot better in fa and yet we sat on our asses and did nothing....Speaking of fa, it seems like a lot of heart and talent went out the door with a huge big bad smell coming the other way...Mitchell who doesn't know if he can or will play...Logan limping in and hasn't seen any action yet while our return guy (I use that word lightly) is doing his best impression of a fish out of water with his five yards and flop....I can't make a case for Case...showed a flash but in the end looked like it was coming from a pan...Willie J....what the hell was he thinking taking that cheap shot and a bad penalty at the worst time ...Frustration???...but not as frustrated as the fans who paid to see that junk....Outside of Brady, Demski and Castillo I find it very hard to single out any player worthy of a positive mention...There needs to be some soul searching before the next game...player wise and coaching or this could get worse....In the final analysis of these last two games...it appears too much talent has exited and what we have secured in return is just not cutting it.....We need some drastic change or this season is going to turn into one helluva failure AND in a Cup year at home no less..................................

Then he will have to be forced to........assuming that Walters and, for that matter Miller, are paying attention. Enough of this country club bullshit.

ful at the end .....we shall see how it goes But hate to say I told you so....but......we almost there....flame on me all you want but it is what it is...and was totally avoidable Having Bridges canned stat would send at least a bit of a message to the team to do their jobs or else, but hanging onto the rest of the slugs will negate the message and reinforce the "old boys run this place" attitude.

Jones can come up on straight a/b run plays.....but has little range or closing speed.....can't stay with anyone in the passing game. Truth is...that our Linebacker crew is just too damn slow, compared to some other teams....

Like yeah... Bridges just quit on the play. Should be an instant cut.

Cover the receiver.

Yeah...kinda sums up a lot...also tho the reluctance to unseat a vet...hasn't helped...and just gradually eroded us away to where we are...as we didnt draft/recruit or develop...and then play a incumbant/transition piece...ones we did we let walk..and for peanuts really...or ones that needed a bump in pay we refused as we figured we were good and could just use a slug we've held on to...or look like the smartest guy in room and reinvent a retread...and for most part our draft strategy of late has sucked Guys oozing with athleticism and potential we draft we just waste or stunt (Shay..Smith...MCI...Samson..Eli..Rene....even Clercius as if Woli never got hurt he would havnt got a chance)

If we were to just inhouse it for the interm I'd hand it to Darryl Patterson..hes got excellent coaching background...has played under no nonesense coaches ..relatable to the import talent and only bias would be to put best talent out there If he does well...reup him I still say both unsigned is telling...earn that extension Also 11 yrs is longtime in football for a coach and somewhat for a g.m....they all get stale and the message just stops working...just the way she goes...

If Walters is as smart as I think he is, he has to realize that if he does nothing about O'Shea, he will also be unemployed soon.

Honestly, I think there’s a couple different angles that show Walter’s and co were the ones that truly ****** this up. We were good because A: The front office went balls deep in FA over 2016-19. Harris, Prime (or close to it) Bighill and Jefferson, Rose, etc Also did a good job bringing in spare parts from other teams who had value (Nick Taylor, Darby, Maston) which we don’t really do anymore. B: We had guys from the Rigmaiden/Craig Smith pipeline coming through until 2021. (Lawler, Jeffcoat, Alford, Nichols to name a few.) Not sure if it lines up exactly with Rigmaiden leaving but the American scouting started to drop a dook after 2022 and never really recovered. We just kept letting good players walk and replacing them with nothing and nobody. The DT spot is a microcosm. Let Stove walk, replace with slightly worse Sayles. Let Sayles walk, replace with slightly worse Ricky Walker, let him go and so on. Drafting has generally sucked too. No real impact players over the last 4 seasons. Now we just draft maybe 1 OL, a slower WR or 2 and a bunch of Jessie Briggs reincarnations per year.

Agreed. Like AHAB, he will go down with his creation. I can foresee him threatening to quit if forced to cut or sit players he is emotionally committed to. If so, who does Walters get to replace him on short notice?

Kolo...kramdi...Thomas...sterns...case...prob even Wallace...Bridges...T.Jones be hard pressed to start...punter guy...Korn prob doesn't make a roster.... Yup... I honestly had my doubts he was a good coach....leader and influencer...no doubt...but in pro ranks that will wane too....he had success when he finally got good assistants and a stacked roster...wedged between seasons when he doesn't...well it's touch and go You been reading my mind lol

Amazing with your absence you can pin point most our issues...good observations And alot of our wins glossed over the issues...will say it again...we won despite our inadequacies...and it's finally caught up and we need major fixes as opposed to tweeks

Jones and Kramdi are good depth on a championship team.

Hey. I haven't posted here for years. Nice to be back. I'm afraid guys like Thomas, Jefferson, Bridges, Tony Jones, Kolankowski, Kramdi and a few others are not the solution. It seems other teams are more than willing to make changes when necessary but we are not. Sure...many will say that pro coaches know more than fans that have more than casual knowledge but I can't help but think that it's obvious after being beat twice by 5-1 Calgary that changes are very necessary. Why sign J.Jones and not play him? Also, Person couldn't be worse than Willie, and Griffin is a baller whom I believe is under used. He could slide into Kramdi's spot or replace Bridges easily. Maybe Ayers could slide into Kramdi's spot because his coverage at times is suspect considering how long he has been on this defence. I know. I'm not a coach...but my knowledge is more than a casual fan. Our O-line, D-Line and Linebackers are not good enough and some like Booch spoke of this while we were winning...and then there's the QB's and receivers. Demski can't do it all, so why isn't Mitchell starting?? We signed him to start! Collaros...Strev...we all saw this coming. We're a bit screwed right now to be honest. No ones giving us anything so maybe we need to reconsider some guys we released, back ups on the roster, PR, and...yes.. trades. But... I think we will status quo because the truth is, our Coach is incredibly stubborn.

Vaj didn't even look on the throw, he just heaved it to a spot where he thought his receiver should be. Bridges I honestly feel like gave up because he thought vaj was just throwing it away.

I’ve been saying for a few years now that the days of O’Shea being a good coach have come and gone. He was good when we captured lightning in a bottle and had the exact kind of team he needed to have in order to succeed, but he sucked before that and he’s sucked since. Not adaptable whatsoever. Not willing to take a long hard look in the mirror. Just trying to recapture the magic that disappeared 3 years ago over and over and wondering why he can’t do it, but it’s okay because he will next week.

How many of our "starters" would be starters on other teams. You're never going to have best at each position but I think we have too many who are closer to the bottom.

Bombers have their kids combine on Monday. Maybe they can find some bodies for the d line meat grinder there. They would come cheap tol

I agree with you I’m just reminding us that’s not how he rolls and he’s the guy in charge.