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Like yeah... Bridges just quit on the play. Should be an instant cut.

Cover the receiver.

Yeah...kinda sums up a lot...also tho the reluctance to unseat a vet...hasn't helped...and just gradually eroded us away to where we are...as we didnt draft/recruit or develop...and then play a incumbant/transition piece...ones we did we let walk..and for peanuts really...or ones that needed a bump in pay we refused as we figured we were good and could just use a slug we've held on to...or look like the smartest guy in room and reinvent a retread...and for most part our draft strategy of late has sucked Guys oozing with athleticism and potential we draft we just waste or stunt (Shay..Smith...MCI...Samson..Eli..Rene....even Clercius as if Woli never got hurt he would havnt got a chance)

If we were to just inhouse it for the interm I'd hand it to Darryl Patterson..hes got excellent coaching background...has played under no nonesense coaches ..relatable to the import talent and only bias would be to put best talent out there If he does well...reup him I still say both unsigned is telling...earn that extension Also 11 yrs is longtime in football for a coach and somewhat for a g.m....they all get stale and the message just stops working...just the way she goes...

If Walters is as smart as I think he is, he has to realize that if he does nothing about O'Shea, he will also be unemployed soon.

Honestly, I think there’s a couple different angles that show Walter’s and co were the ones that truly ****** this up. We were good because A: The front office went balls deep in FA over 2016-19. Harris, Prime (or close to it) Bighill and Jefferson, Rose, etc Also did a good job bringing in spare parts from other teams who had value (Nick Taylor, Darby, Maston) which we don’t really do anymore. B: We had guys from the Rigmaiden/Craig Smith pipeline coming through until 2021. (Lawler, Jeffcoat, Alford, Nichols to name a few.) Not sure if it lines up exactly with Rigmaiden leaving but the American scouting started to drop a dook after 2022 and never really recovered. We just kept letting good players walk and replacing them with nothing and nobody. The DT spot is a microcosm. Let Stove walk, replace with slightly worse Sayles. Let Sayles walk, replace with slightly worse Ricky Walker, let him go and so on. Drafting has generally sucked too. No real impact players over the last 4 seasons. Now we just draft maybe 1 OL, a slower WR or 2 and a bunch of Jessie Briggs reincarnations per year.

Agreed. Like AHAB, he will go down with his creation. I can foresee him threatening to quit if forced to cut or sit players he is emotionally committed to. If so, who does Walters get to replace him on short notice?

Kolo...kramdi...Thomas...sterns...case...prob even Wallace...Bridges...T.Jones be hard pressed to start...punter guy...Korn prob doesn't make a roster.... Yup... I honestly had my doubts he was a good coach....leader and influencer...no doubt...but in pro ranks that will wane too....he had success when he finally got good assistants and a stacked roster...wedged between seasons when he doesn't...well it's touch and go You been reading my mind lol

Amazing with your absence you can pin point most our issues...good observations And alot of our wins glossed over the issues...will say it again...we won despite our inadequacies...and it's finally caught up and we need major fixes as opposed to tweeks

Jones and Kramdi are good depth on a championship team.

Hey. I haven't posted here for years. Nice to be back. I'm afraid guys like Thomas, Jefferson, Bridges, Tony Jones, Kolankowski, Kramdi and a few others are not the solution. It seems other teams are more than willing to make changes when necessary but we are not. Sure...many will say that pro coaches know more than fans that have more than casual knowledge but I can't help but think that it's obvious after being beat twice by 5-1 Calgary that changes are very necessary. Why sign J.Jones and not play him? Also, Person couldn't be worse than Willie, and Griffin is a baller whom I believe is under used. He could slide into Kramdi's spot or replace Bridges easily. Maybe Ayers could slide into Kramdi's spot because his coverage at times is suspect considering how long he has been on this defence. I know. I'm not a coach...but my knowledge is more than a casual fan. Our O-line, D-Line and Linebackers are not good enough and some like Booch spoke of this while we were winning...and then there's the QB's and receivers. Demski can't do it all, so why isn't Mitchell starting?? We signed him to start! Collaros...Strev...we all saw this coming. We're a bit screwed right now to be honest. No ones giving us anything so maybe we need to reconsider some guys we released, back ups on the roster, PR, and...yes.. trades. But... I think we will status quo because the truth is, our Coach is incredibly stubborn.

Vaj didn't even look on the throw, he just heaved it to a spot where he thought his receiver should be. Bridges I honestly feel like gave up because he thought vaj was just throwing it away.

I’ve been saying for a few years now that the days of O’Shea being a good coach have come and gone. He was good when we captured lightning in a bottle and had the exact kind of team he needed to have in order to succeed, but he sucked before that and he’s sucked since. Not adaptable whatsoever. Not willing to take a long hard look in the mirror. Just trying to recapture the magic that disappeared 3 years ago over and over and wondering why he can’t do it, but it’s okay because he will next week.

How many of our "starters" would be starters on other teams. You're never going to have best at each position but I think we have too many who are closer to the bottom.

Bombers have their kids combine on Monday. Maybe they can find some bodies for the d line meat grinder there. They would come cheap tol

I agree with you I’m just reminding us that’s not how he rolls and he’s the guy in charge.

That one play where he spun away ,and found a wide open Alford ,how do you defend that? Was a hell of a play. Gotta give credit ,where credit is due ,guys. The Stamps are real,to quote our man Tait. But they exposed glaring weaknesses ,Does Kyle and Co.have the cajones to make the hard choices? History says no....

Many here lol Agree...They perfect rotational and in game injury depth guys...not defacto starters

Yeah his presser after the game sure as hell didn't inspire confidence......how long will Kyle and Wade let this clown rule......

I don't think oshea counts as many... Here's the thing with those two... they're OK and you can use guys like that... but they shouldn't be the untouchable mainstays like they seem to be. We got far far too many of those guys on the team now.

Yeah those quotes there are damning... tsn showed multiple times how vaj was just rolling away from wherever the pressure was going to come from and not having to worry about getting hit. There were a few plays they did get some pressure... but not enough to make life uncomfortable for vaj.

par for course tho...and hence...no changes required moving forward

no...he still played....Person got 5 snaps Osh is not a good coach whether anyone believes it or not....Maybe he should be handed the "culture curator guy" role and someone else take control we dont need depth "they are all starters"...and "they in the building cause they give us a chance to win"...what you talking bout depth....DEPTH?!!?...lol yeah sad part is we have guys who just could be the real deal....if anything will be aggressive and full of fire and spit....but good luck they get a chance...so we will never know Just look at CGY....Total turnover on defence...and they whooped are arse 2 straight games...with all our savvy glue and continuity....

Wooooooww. That’s delusional af.

yeah case is just an average run of the mill unspectacular guy...if thats our best "depth" piece we need some serious work...he did nothing to earn a spot....looked the same as last yr...and in 2 T.C's....hard pass as much as many love T.Jones and Kramdi....neither are starter quality and have gapping holes in their game...thos are 2 prime examples of guys who would be top notch "depth" guys.....Too bad Osh doesnt see it that way...I'm not for getting rid of them but they arent starters