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Given O'Shea's M.O., he was smart to ask to be released.

Would it be more or less bush league than announcing a 7% rise to the cap 4 days after free agency opens?!?

Demski, Collaros, Jefferson, Neufeld, Lofton and Sterns are all former Riders, nobody objects to them.

Taulia was released, I believe. Why would the Ti Cats trade us Powell? I'd have been happy if we kept Dolegala but he's tainted because he's a former Riders & posters here like no one who was a former Rider. With Collaros out, we're a mess at qb which means we're a mess as a team judging by that roster. As far as Artoepus goes, I remember a qb named John Schneider....

There was no CFL directive telling teams not to use the new salary cap amount. Why would the CFL announce an increase only to draw it back? Do you know just how bush league that would be?? And if they did, how would this affect the teams who may or may not have applied the increase to their spending? Suddenly you have 9 teams all spending money to different levels. Some to the cap limit, others less & others to the floor. How would you police the teams that went over the old salary cap amount of $5.6 million? Would you claw back the money & take away draft picks? Likely not so the risk (even if there was one) would probably be minimal but then again, there'd be no point having a salary cap if each team spent differently. It's also been 6 months since the increase was announced. Nothing happened to the cap so the story that money may be moved into pensions away from the salary cap was false. As far as your argument goes that not spending on Lawler means we could spend the money elsewhere. Looking at that roster & the holes we now have everywhere, just where did we spend it? Yep, letting Lawler go sure strengthened our roster immensely. That's what happened to the Stampeders. Next Man Up is a great mantra until there isn't anyone to step up anymore as the cupboards are bare. Then, you have to restock.

Post 2019, it was nothing but loyalists. No alarms were being raised yet, no grief was being handed out.

Revolutionary.....

You can bring in players after TC ends?

So what's the deal with Mitchell? COVID? Halitosis? Slept with a Coach's daughter? Beyond ridiculous at this point...........

Yeah our issue is we don't have legit game breakers...Demski is kinda when he has 1..or 2 other guys with him...but alone he ain't gonna carry u to wins and if teams take him away...we hooped If we as a team are happy with mediocrity and hoping everything goes perfect and we get all the bounces...then yeah play Sterns and Case... Clercius plays a good complimentary role with possession and in run game...We have already seen Wheatfall can be neutralized with over under coverage so leaves just Demski...those 2 need help to excel...they don't have it

Stop already. You're making too much sense.

Hasn't really worked for 5...2 maybe...the last 3...not so much If not for the wind fluke in mtl...and Maces crappy coaching in west final there would be no 5 cup appearances Also the 2021 win we escaped...if not for the brain cramp to give up that single ....Hamilton wins with a fg with no time left

Rigmaiden left in 2021. Was it his work from 2018-2020 that put us over the top and now we're seeing the result of a slow decline?

I've never said that actually...I said tge culture started from Miller on down tho...Miller had a vision of what he wanted...osh sold him on being guy to carry it out...I also said the "culture" wasn't a new idea Osh brought outta nowhere...its how good teams operate...so you musta mistook me for someone else... If anything i took a lot of grief from the osh loyalists here for my claims it's not all "Osh" for our success and how things are done...and have gone on record saying some have left specifically on how osh operates And a couple others early were influenced by teammates to stay when they intended to leave...one of whom was Woli at one point...and i know that as a fact

Guys don’t play one spot exclusively. WRs move around depending on scheme form etc. He fits the role he’s in perfect too. Catches every thing thrown his way, hard runner with the ball, very good blocker. Hes not a huge yac guy. The slot really benefits guys who don’t have a good get off move, and either are quick enough to pressure the cover at the snap, or a fast but not quick guy who needs to boost to hit high gear. Big Kev isn’t really any of those. The problem is we’ve got no no1 target, we’ve got a 2 a 3 and no 1 or 4. You cant afford to run out two scrub imp wrs in the cfl. Moving guys around won’t fix our issues, we need to dump sterns and case for legit CFL players.

I really don’t like this post sans your last sentence. Depressing if your right.

That may be true about Clercius but as I pointed out we aren't getting much output in any case. So I'm suggesting we'd improve overall with Mitchell in at WR and him at SB. Now if we want to use Corcoron or Cobb in that role, I'd fine with that as well. In 3 of his 5 games he and 14 or less yards for the game. His best game was the 1st game against the Stamps. Bumping Vaval might happen anyway due to injury this week. So the suggestion of Case bumped to a returner role and back up receiver works for me too.

Lawler left twice for kind of ridiculous money. Yeah would have paid it this time since we're hosting the Grey Cup. But also a guy who is hot and cold on effort. Like a couple stupid plays in the last Grey Cup he made were big ones in shutting down what should have been scoring drives. Brown left to be starting QB in Ottawa. Think if he had the opportunity and similar money here, he stays. Ford got an insane deal from Edmonton. Sayles got a big deal in Hamilton. Most of the other free agents who left here basically weren't offered anything from Winnipeg. Like Garbutt's. Kind of striking out on guys they wanted who left or spurned them. I don't think there's an issue of players not wanting to be here. The issue is more on who they see as the core players IMO. They haven't really replaced the core group from 18-21. Guys like Jefferson, Neufeld, Nichols, Schoen aren't necessarily building blocks like Harris, Jeffcoat, Bighill, Hardrick, Adams, Alexander, Mike Miller the player were in setting that . And they are still running the team like the players can completely self-regulate and don't need more of that leadership from the coaching staff. It's a much different group.

So what happened was you had a great team that was super tight and guys took a haircut to stay together... then some guys wanted to get paid so your depth took a hit but it was OK the vets were still good. What's happened now is the depth hasn't been given a chance to play and the coach won't change things up "because it's worked for 5 years " Sadly it seems like we're going to have to have a long losing streak for them to realize it doesn't work anymore.

And I agree with that. But 2019-2021 was far more than luck.

But now you have guys, like Strevy who has FIFO tattooed on his body, that have to be convinced things will be better in order to come back.

I need to remind that there was a time when you also opined that things were good, and expounded at length on how O'Shea's culture attracts players. It was not just media sound bites, there was a time when players legit wanted to play in Winnipeg.

Chris Brazzell's entire highlight film as a Bomber.

I think the reason White gave for leaving is he needed to feed his family, if he was paid not to play, problem solved. Decent chance he may have played in place of Case last game.

They had Clercius in the slot a bunch on Friday, Corcoran at Z. Personally from watching that, don't think Clercius has the quickness in tight spaces or route running yet to make some space for himself to be productive from the slot. Chris-Ike is that guy that can be the H-back type, block, leak out, run a flat route, wheel. Corcoran might be a guy who can play out of the slot a bit. I'd drop Vaval and have Mitchell/Case both on to play some receiver and return. I'm not a huge fan of the look with one returner back on kickoff. Teams are ******* with us when we do that. And Vaval isn't exactly taking charge. Put Mitchell and Case both back there. Use Case on punts. In general with teams playing a ton of zone, 3 high and quarters on us, daring us to throw underneath and try to get YAC, completely taking away vertical routes...need to use formation to open up space horizontally. Bunch formations, isolate guys 1x4, 1x2 with tight ends. Open up space so you can hit guys in space and give them a chance to make a play after the catch.