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Yeah those quotes there are damning... tsn showed multiple times how vaj was just rolling away from wherever the pressure was going to come from and not having to worry about getting hit. There were a few plays they did get some pressure... but not enough to make life uncomfortable for vaj.

par for course tho...and hence...no changes required moving forward

no...he still played....Person got 5 snaps Osh is not a good coach whether anyone believes it or not....Maybe he should be handed the "culture curator guy" role and someone else take control we dont need depth "they are all starters"...and "they in the building cause they give us a chance to win"...what you talking bout depth....DEPTH?!!?...lol yeah sad part is we have guys who just could be the real deal....if anything will be aggressive and full of fire and spit....but good luck they get a chance...so we will never know Just look at CGY....Total turnover on defence...and they whooped are arse 2 straight games...with all our savvy glue and continuity....

Wooooooww. That’s delusional af.

yeah case is just an average run of the mill unspectacular guy...if thats our best "depth" piece we need some serious work...he did nothing to earn a spot....looked the same as last yr...and in 2 T.C's....hard pass as much as many love T.Jones and Kramdi....neither are starter quality and have gapping holes in their game...thos are 2 prime examples of guys who would be top notch "depth" guys.....Too bad Osh doesnt see it that way...I'm not for getting rid of them but they arent starters

u deserve to get really drunk my friend...I feel for you

Its an ongoing problem...and like I mentioned too many guys are wayyyy to comfortable knowing they will not get yanked...let alone sat a game or 2....but thats what's needed here if for anything to see what we have....and or put some fire back in the belly of some these mainstays.....or if the "depth" can actually play and if not then get some that can....It also goes for Osh.....he has no fear of anything/job security himself so just does his thing with not a care in the world. He is slowly ruining a real good team that was gifted to him for 2019-2022 whether people wanna believe it or not with how he's handling things...and how he coaches/what he thinks is important...past success aside he should in now way be safe ....and not held accountable from above...now way in hell 2 games now have been basically over by mid 3rd quarter....did we see back-ups in to actually get reps not in the pointless last 2 mins of a game?....nope Did he pull loafers/dumb penalty guys/underperformers ?....nope Did he practice the 2 point convert on late TD's in each game so we had live reps for when it might really matter?....nope Did he practice the onside kick for the same purpose...live rep practice?....nope He added an actual rush end for a dline that was again getting no pressure or push and to keep the 2 30+ guys fresh....nope...not gonna say 5 reps was useful rostering Did he do any savy gambles.....challenges....use of rules afforded to him...nope, tho he did use 1 challenge but coulda pulled it outta his shorts again Did he have answers to anything going on during the game....and in questions afterwards?...nope Is he gonna make any significant changes for next game that an injury doesn't dictate?...not likely and based on his post game babble he aint changing anything on how they do busines Related to the last point...coming off a bye,,....where we just played a team...watched more film on them last week and should have been prepared....healthy.....motivated and coached up...were we??....again nope That my friend's and colleagues is poor coaching....piss poor really....and the beat goes on...status quo we will roll...and likely to 4th place and outta play-offs Yes there a lotta season left and we are 3-2....but this has been season's in the making...the erosion...country club attitude...the belief things will work out and not truly coaching up the team...based on looking backward and not forward...failing to land any significant free agent because we don't know when...how...or where to upgrade, and this insistence on not putting the best team we could on the field game in or game out...or at least trying to find the right pieces we may have in-house, so all is not lost....yrt....but a lot needs to happen for the season to turn around....and be succesful at the end .....we shall see how it goes But hate to say I told you so....but......we almost there....flame on me all you want but it is what it is...and was totally avoidable

Being in the stands for this one really gave me 2013 vibes. Beautiful stadium full of fans ready to party and the team just doesn't even show up. So disappointing.

I think he’s been good against the run, but nobody is generating any pressure.

Yeah Willie is just completely done at this point.

May not be his MO but doing the same thing over and over again isn't going to help.

Well he certainly wasn’t the “fall” guy. Wait a minute, he was. Dude couldn’t stand up all night.

That’s true, but we could bring in most any imp fa de and they wouldn’t do worse. Wj gets torched soo bad in the run game it’s not even funny.

Sad to say, there were so many bigger issues than Case, out there.... last night

Doesn't help that our other DE...is bringing nothing either... Would of benched him BEFORE that penalty........he was just taking the tourist route, and occasionally waving his arms around.......

Agree 100% Time to set a few vets. Heck I live in Calgary and I can not even remember many of the names on the Stamps lineup that were there last year. Calgary did a great job of recruiting based on what I have seen - The Bombers Recruiting?? did it happen???

Person, Adams, Ayers, dress Woodbey and have him play as a 3-4 style rush end. Call back Webb or Brandon Wright. Bring in someone that was cut somewhere else. Really don't see any of these options being more useless than Jefferson has been so far this year. A warm body with a moderate understanding of their assignment and a willingness to battle could not possibly be any worse. Maybe he has something left to tap into. Looks tapped out though. Doesn't seem to have any drive to deal with some adversity. Other teams are basically laughing in his face while going right at him which probably is leading to the frustration penalties. My opinion, a guy like that you deal with when he's a good player, but on the downswing is toxic as ****.

It would be. Except we have no depth.

Wonder if MOS has that same loyalty dedication he’s earned it approach with WJ as he has for ZC, JT etc?

Not MOS’s mo, especially with certain players. No way he deviates unless he’s literally forced to.

Will bang this drum as often as it needs... team is complacent right now. Need a shake up to wake everyone up. Sit a Willie or Thomas.

The tough guy routine from him is very tiresome. Make a damn play, be aggressive at the line of scrimmage, getting after QB. How many times a game does a RB blow right past him and he bricks his feet, maybe waves his arm as the guy goes by. Would be a very easy message sending veteran cut IMO.

Bail Bonds and a Bridges Too Far.

Did he play again after that cheap shot? If he did, that’s a bad decision by the coaches. Can’t have your vets running around trying to hurt guys at the end of a blowout. Really bad message to the rest of the team. &nbsp Discipline has been a problem too often this season.

We need a wake up call......like 4-5 lineup changes.....including some vets. Or Walters needs to simply grow a pair...